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		<title>Targeting and Pitching Bloggers (With ProBlogger&#8217;s Darren Rowse)</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>How can business owners and PR professionals successfully pitch stories to bloggers? Darren Rowse of ProBlogger.net weighs in with his advice in this second segment of our two-part interview.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://nakedpr.com/pitching-bloggers/">Targeting and Pitching Bloggers (With ProBlogger&#8217;s Darren Rowse)</a> appeared first on <a href="https://nakedpr.com">NakedPR</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">H</span>ere is the second half of my recent interview with pro blogger <a href="httsp://problogger.net">Darren Rowse.</a> In it we discussed targeting and pitching bloggers story ideas.</p>
<h2>The Case for Targeting &amp; Pitching Bloggers</h2>
<h3>No matter where you fall in the <a href="https://nakedpr.com/bloggers-vs-journalists-darren-rowse/">bloggers vs journalists debate</a>, Darren thinks public relations people should avoid snubbing bloggers:</h3>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;One big benefit of bloggers is that they have an ability to build real trust with readers. I&#8217;m not doubting that this can happen with journalists too but blogs can be very personal and the relationship between blogger and reader can be quite deep.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<h4>I agree with him.</h4>
<p>Bloggers can build trust with readers on a deeper level than can be done in some other outlets. It comes down to that interactive conversation we love so much in PR. I&#8217;ve witnessed this on one of my other blogs specifically. I saw first-hand how a more personal approach built trust, increased interaction, increased backlinks and referrals, and increased revenue.</p>
<h3>Darren&#8217;s <a href="https://problogger.net">ProBlogger</a> also exists as a trusted resource for new bloggers.</h3>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I know that after writing daily content for three years that some of my longer term readers feel like they know me. They&#8217;ve benefited from my advice for years, they&#8217;ve seen me develop and experiment in my field of expertise, they&#8217;ve also seen some of the personal things that I talk about from my life&#8230; they trust me. As a result when I make a recommendation or suggestion they&#8217;re more than likely to act on that. This is a powerful thing and something that companies are obviously interested to tap into.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And tap into trusted blogs they do. They do so through advertising and pushing affiliate programs on bloggers they know can reach their target market. They&#8217;re pitching bloggers in the hopes of getting exposure with their loyal and targeted audience.</p>
<h2>Choosing Blogs to Target</h2>
<p>If you intend on pitching bloggers your press releases, focus on bloggers that are reaching your target audience effectively. But go beyond that. Target those bloggers with developed trust, as Darren mentioned, with that audience.</p>
<p>Darren and I disagree a bit on targeting bloggers &#8211; mostly in how to build the relationships (what&#8217;s needed, what&#8217;s not, etc.).</p>
<h3>At the same time, he makes some excellent recommendations:</h3>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There are a number of things that I&#8217;d suggest:</p>
<ol>
<li>Use tools like Technorati or Google&#8217;s Blog search to find what blogs are covering the topic you&#8217;re interested in. You can set up &#8216;alerts&#8217; or &#8216;watch lists&#8217; for certain keywords to be notified what&#8217;s going on in an industry. After a while you&#8217;ll see the same blogs coming up again and again which is at least an indication that they are &#8216;on topic&#8217;.</li>
<li>Track with the blog for a few days or weeks before approaching them. See what and how they cover stories. Watch how many comments they get and what tone the comments are (you can learn a lot about a blogger by what goes on in their comments section). Pay particular attention to the &#8216;voice&#8217; that they use to write posts (if they&#8217;re an angry and controversial blogger they may or may not be the best vehicle to target.</li>
<li>Watch what others say about the blog. Use a tool like technorati to watch what other bloggers are linking up and for what reason they&#8217;re talking about the blog. You&#8217;ll quickly get an idea as to whether the blogger is trusted, influential and a credible source of information.</li>
<li>Use tools like Alexa or Compete to get an idea of traffic. They won&#8217;t give you actual numbers but when you compare blogs using these tools you get an idea of how they rank in general terms.</li>
<li>Test the waters with a few comments of your own on their blog. Don&#8217;t pitch them or do a PR spin &#8211; but leave a valuable and useful comment and see how it&#8217;s received.&#8221;</li>
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<h3>I don&#8217;t agree you need test the waters with comments for every blog you may want to target.</h3>
<p>Rather, I think the key here is you need to take the time to know what stories a blogger may or may not be interested in. More importantly, you need to let the blogger <em>know</em> why they&#8217;ve been targeted. For example, let them know what related pieces you&#8217;ve read instead of assuming they&#8217;ll know why you&#8217;re pitching them.</p>
<h3>Darren sums it up nicely:</h3>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;My advice to PR people is to travel with a blogger over time, build relationships, resource them, help them improve their blog, only &#8216;pitch&#8217; relevant stories, tailor those pitches as much as possible to the blogger&#8217;s audience and never manipulate bloggers (or be perceived to).&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<h2>Pitching Bloggers Your Story</h2>
<p>After familiarizing yourself with bloggers who can reach your audience, find a way to pitch them without alienating them. Darren wrote a <a href="https://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/10/30/how-to-pitch-to-bloggers-21-tips/">21-point series of tips on how to pitch bloggers</a> (covering not only story pitches, but those for link recommendations and exchanges, interview requests, guest posts, and more).</p>
<h3>His thoughts on pitching press releases directly interested me (he flat out suggests that you not do it):</h3>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I must have hit ‘delete’ on thousands of press releases over the last few years. While I do occasionally use them &#8211; it is generally only when they are right on target for my niche and quite often when I go searching for them. I’d much rather be pitched a story idea that is tailored to my blog. This need not be long or detailed (in fact it’s best if it’s not) but if someone shoots me an email that says ‘here’s a story you might be interested in and here’s why it’s relevant to your blog’s readers’ I’m much more likely to read it. If you do have a press release it might be more effective to not send it &#8211; but to give a link to where it is hosted online so that if the blogger wants to refer to it (and link to it) they can.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<h3>On this point, I disagree a little bit.</h3>
<p>I think you should absolutely send news releases when pitching bloggers.</p>
<p>My experience specializing in online PR, working as a blogger on quite a few blogs myself, and working in larger networks where I became exposed to hundreds of online writers / bloggers tells me that many bloggers (including respected niche experts with large trusted followings) <em>do</em> in fact want to receive your press releases.</p>
<p>However, I can understand that for a blogger of Darren&#8217;s popularity, it might get overwhelming at times. So I don&#8217;t blame him for feeling the way he does. I know other &#8220;big&#8221; bloggers who feel similarly. At the same time though, other large blogs (<a href="https://mashable.com/submit/">Mashable</a> comes to mind) actively <em>solicit</em> news release submissions.</p>
<p>I think the thing to focus on is your targeting. While you may not be required to follow specific bloggers for a long time to get a feel for them, you should absolutely check to see if they have specific pitching policies, requests, or even flat-out refusals before sending a release. If they make it clear they don&#8217;t want your releases, you&#8217;re not helping yourself by sending them.</p>
<p>I think Darren did hit on an important point when he mentioned sending a short pitch email suggesting a story idea and why that idea would be relevant to the blogger&#8217;s audience. Where we differ is I look at that brief, more personalized email as an <em>addition</em> to the press release and not a substitute.</p>
<p>I work with a lot of web-based clients targeting bloggers and have for years.</p>
<h3>Here&#8217;s the course of action I&#8217;ve found most effective when pitching bloggers:</h3>
<h4>1. Target the bloggers.</h4>
<p>Create a list of the ones most relevant to your news story (you can use the tools and tips Darren offered).</p>
<h4>2. Look for any mention of a pitching policy.</h4>
<p>The sidebar or contact page is where you&#8217;ll often find it. If the blogger doesn&#8217;t accept pitches, scratch them from your list. If they do, see if they mention any preferences for how to receive them (their own online form, via email, etc.). In most cases I end up pitching via email.</p>
<h4>3. From that targeted list, search for specific blog posts related to your news story in some way.</h4>
<p>Read them thoroughly. Observe the interaction with readers in the comments. Get a good feel for how the individual bloggers cover topics like that you&#8217;re planning to pitch. Evaluate their attitude and tone in those posts. If their posts about the subject matter are negative, you&#8217;re not doing yourself any favors.</p>
<p>For example, anyone pitching my <a href="https://allfreelancewriting.com">freelance writing blog</a> should know never to pitch me about a content mill or race-to-the-bottom freelance bidding marketplace. (And if they do, they shouldn&#8217;t be surprised if I tear them apart publicly for promoting the exploitation of writers.)</p>
<h4>4. Write a short email (similar to what Darren mentioned).</h4>
<p>It should be tailored to each blogger individually. You can comment on one of the posts you read while evaluating the blog or something about their approach. Let them know you&#8217;re not simply sending a random story idea, but instead you did take the time to research their blog, audience, and interests.</p>
<p>This kind of pitching even works on me personally. I get a lot of pitches for my blogs. If it&#8217;s nothing but a release, I trash it. If it&#8217;s something tailored to me, I consider it (which just led to me publishing a guest post and agreeing to partner in a contest very recently on another blog of mine).</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to spend a lot of time stroking the ego of the blogger you&#8217;re emailing. Ego-bait is inherently slimy behavior anyway. Just show them you actually know something about them.</p>
<h4>5. Paste your press release at the end of the actual email.</h4>
<p>It has always proven more effective for me and my clients than linking to the release online as Darren mentioned. At the same time, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with including a link <em>additionally </em>(preferably to a version hosted on your site or your client&#8217;s site where the blogger can quickly and easily learn more)<em>.</em></p>
<p>This works better for a simple reason&#8230; as easy as it is to click a link, it&#8217;s still often a struggle to get people to do it. Remember, it&#8217;s just as easy for the recipient to click once to close your email. Put the information in front of their face. If they want it, they&#8217;ll read it. If they don&#8217;t, it&#8217;s extremely easy to ignore, and just focus on the personal pitch above &#8211; I suggest leaving a bit of space between the two to avoid it looking like one huge continuous email message, and just allude to the press release in the short message.</p>
<p>So tell me&#8230; what pitching policies do <em>you</em> follow when targeting bloggers (or are you even targeting bloggers)? Have you experimented? What&#8217;s been most effective?  Are there any other specific tools you use to help you identify bloggers that may be worth targeting, following, or building relationships with?</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://nakedpr.com/pitching-bloggers/">Targeting and Pitching Bloggers (With ProBlogger&#8217;s Darren Rowse)</a> appeared first on <a href="https://nakedpr.com">NakedPR</a>.</p>
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		<title>If PR Pros and Bloggers Played Nice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Mattern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>PR pros and bloggers love to complain about each other. At the same time, both groups sometimes need each other. But are the complaints and demands of either group fair or realistic?</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://nakedpr.com/pr-pros-bloggers/">If PR Pros and Bloggers Played Nice</a> appeared first on <a href="https://nakedpr.com">NakedPR</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">I</span> don’t know about you, but I’m sick and tired of hearing about so-and-so blacklisting PR firms, or PR people blacklisting bloggers. For crying out loud, who the hell cares?</p>
<p>PRs are still going to pitch their stories. We’re like dogs… if our actions are validated, we’re not going to change them. If we pitch to blogs like yours, and most of the feedback is positive (or the results are positive compared to the time and energy put in at least), we’re not going to change much overall.</p>
<p>Bloggers are still going to bitch and rant publicly if they don’t like what PRs are doing or saying. They’re still adapting to the growing pains of the blogosphere – being treated like journalists in a publishing industry they’ve chosen to become involved with (and that trend is probably going to continue to grow).</p>
<p>I can understand both sides. I play on both teams every day. But the back and forth attacks do nothing but make the people involved look ridiculous (and sometimes pretty hypocritical).</p>
<p>So rather than trying to place blame on one side, let’s instead accept that both sides have their share of f*ck-ups, and let’s see what an ideal world would look like if bloggers and PRs could learn to play nice:</p>
<h2>PR Firms / Professionals</h2>
<ul>
<li>WOULD NOT ever send irrelevant news releases or pitches to bloggers. At least <em>try</em> to be relevant. If you’re not sure if your news is relevant, ask them. If the blogger hops around from topic to topic, forget about them (you should be targeting people with a true niche audience related to your news – a topic-hopper won’t give you that as much as a real niche site / blog will).</li>
<li>WOULD thoroughly read a blog to get a better feel for what the blogger’s interests are. Or more realistically, you would at least acknowledge that the search function is your friend – look for related products, news, etc. being discussed there. Do they even <em>cover</em> news at all? You should be able to tell that much from a simple search or looking at the blog’s categories or tags.</li>
<li>WOULD interact with the blogger via blog comments to “test the waters” before considering sending them a pitch.</li>
<li>WOULD NOT mass-send any pitches for any reason to an email list. It goes without saying that any email list you have should be built on your own, and not paid for. If you’re buying niche email lists, you’re a moron.</li>
<li>WOULD always tailor pitches to the blogger individually (don’t just say “hey, I thought you’d be interested in….” Tell them <em>why</em> you thought they’d be interested – you saw something similar on their blog for example – they won’t always remember every post they’ve done in the past, and you may not have the same ideas about what’s relevant).</li>
<li>WOULD NOT dismiss all bloggers just because of a few idiots who feel like bitching about receiving news.</li>
<li>WOULD take bloggers seriously when they contact them for information, verification of facts, interview requests, review materials, etc. – or at least have some clear policies in place about what you’re willing to give to whom (no excuse not to offer verification, but it’s perfectly understandable if you won’t mail out products for review to a brand new blog with no audience).</li>
<li>WOULD include an unsubscribe option in email pitches (although this is really more of a “if you mass-send emails” thing – an unsubscribe link doesn’t really work in a personal email, which is what bloggers say they want – choose your battles I guess).</li>
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<h2>Bloggers</h2>
<ul>
<li>WOULD make sure their blog was well targeted (you can’t complain about people not knowing what you’re interested in if you’re hopping around from topic to topic – if you cover something even once, it’s a reasonable assumption you might be open to talking about something similar down the road).</li>
<li>WOULD make sure the blog is fully searchable and categories are easy to find – make it easy for people to find out whether you’re interested in a topic or not.</li>
<li>WOULD have a pitching policy clearly in place on their blog (this is especially true for blogs with large audiences – when you turn yourself into a niche media outlet, you not only take on increased responsibility to your readers, but you have to expect pitches to come with that). If you don’t want to receive pitches, or only pitches on certain topics, say so clearly and publicly, and make it easy to find. If you do that, you have every right to bitch (loudly) when someone doesn’t bother to read it (although be careful about where people are finding you – if you don’t want pitches, don’t post your address publicly – Gina Trapani recently bashed quite a few firms claiming they directly ignored her requests, and it turned out not to be true as she was in a media database with that address – always know where your contact info is, and if you don’t want it out there, use a friggin’ contact form instead).</li>
<li>WOULD NOT blacklist all PRs or even full firms over the actions of a few idiots (despite how much you hear about them, you’d be hard-pressed to convince me that <em>most</em> PRs are like that – hell, most of us aren’t pitching you to begin with).</li>
<li>WOULD NOT bitch about people sending unsolicited contacts and then hypocritically publish a mass email list of the same (is that really even legal?).</li>
<li>WOULD make use of the filters the email gods have given them instead of feeling a need to create public blacklists.</li>
<li>WOULD understand that they’re far from the only relevant blogger to a firm’s or client’s audience, and therefore it’s not always possible to spend huge amounts of time on every blog that might be interested in a pitch – especially given that most pitches are time-sensitive.</li>
<li>WOULD understand that by mass-blacklisting PRs, you <em>won’t</em> get advance news that <em>is</em> relevant, you <em>won’t</em>have any chance to break those stories (plenty of other bloggers will be more than happy to beat you to the punch, build their own rep, and potentially swipe your audience in time), and you <em>won’t</em> likely get cooperation when you want a big interview, review products, event access, etc.</li>
<li>WOULD report true PR spam to someone higher in a firm, so they could better understand how to train their newer staff to avoid those problems in the future. Is it our job as bloggers to do this? No. But if we’re not doing anything to try to help the problem, we don’t have the right to bitch about it as loudly.</li>
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<p>Are all of these things ever going to happen? Hell no. The point is that no matter what side you’re on, if you’re complaining about the other side, you’re quite likely doing at least <em>something</em> to contribute to the problem. Always? No. Some spam is just spam.</p>
<p>PRs don’t want to be looked at as spammers (and most of us aren’t). So we need to better educate other PRs, weed out the bad apples ourselves, and more effectively target bloggers – even if that means targeting fewer bloggers (leaving out those without already-existing significant readerships) because of time constraints in getting to know them.</p>
<p>Bloggers often want to be respected as legitimate sources for news and information in their niche. As bloggers we have to know when to choose our battles, and we have to know which PR folks to befriend (might we be interested in using that connection in the future?). We have to understand that the <em>ability</em> to immediately and publicly bitch when we’re pissed off doesn’t give us the <em>right</em> to do so without first thinking an issue through and figuring out if there’s a better approach that would still fit our needs. I’m all for bloggers having the right to bitch as much as they want… I just think we need to think before we do it, and make sure our post is proactive in trying to start discussions rather than solely reactive because we’re pissed off.</p>
<p>So what do you think? Will we ever play nice? In an absolutely ideal world, what do you think either PRs or bloggers (or both!) need to know or do?</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://nakedpr.com/pr-pros-bloggers/">If PR Pros and Bloggers Played Nice</a> appeared first on <a href="https://nakedpr.com">NakedPR</a>.</p>
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